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Post by Mile501 on Nov 19, 2018 11:39:19 GMT -5
Near the end of the race in 2016, #19-Edwards wrecked with #22-Logano, bringing out the caution and ending Edwards' and Logano's charge at the championship.
Near the end of the race in 2018, #19-Suarez wrecked with #2-Keselowski, bringing out the caution and helping Logano win the championship.
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Post by jimmie48fan on Nov 19, 2018 19:27:28 GMT -5
What a joke. I hope you're happy you got your servant to win NASCAR.
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Post by Mile501 on Nov 19, 2018 21:09:05 GMT -5
Some interesting numerology surrounding Matt Kenseth's 15-race season: He started 17th 5 times, matching his longtime car number during his first stint with Roush. Two of those 17th-place starts were in his final two races. He crashed out in his first start of the season, but finished 17th in his second race, the Coca-Cola 600, where he earned his first career victory in the #17 car 18 years before. He finished 7th in his penultimate race at Phoenix, the site of his final career win a year before, and matching the car number of fellow Wisconsin driver Alan Kulwicki. He finished 6th in his last-ever start, matching his current car number and the car number of his mentor Mark Martin. His last two races were by far his best finishes of the season, showing that perhaps he has accomplished his goal of helping Roush improve, even if that improvement came more slowly than he had hoped. One more interesting note: Kenseth's 6th-place finish matched his finish in his first Cup start, when he subbed for Bill Elliott at Dover 20 (matching his Gibbs car number) years ago. |
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Post by nascarfan87 on Nov 20, 2018 12:46:17 GMT -5
 Joey Logano now has the record for worst points finish in the year before a championship season in the modern era, beating Alan Kulwicki who finished 13th in 1991 before taking the title in 1992. |
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Post by Mile501 on Nov 20, 2018 12:47:32 GMT -5
View AttachmentJoey Logano now has the record for worst points finish in the year before a championship season in the modern era, beating Alan Kulwicki who finished 13th in 1991 before taking the title in 1992. ...which really exposes the flaws in this system, because Logano really should have finished about 4th in points this year, and he finished 11th in full-season points last year. |
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Post by chevyfan98 on Nov 20, 2018 19:08:33 GMT -5
Actually missing the playoffs entirely while driving for one of the top teams and 16 drivers are allowed in says more about Logano's driving ability than backing into a championship he had no business winning does.
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Post by JSPorts on Nov 20, 2018 19:34:53 GMT -5
Actually missing the playoffs entirely while driving for one of the top teams and 16 drivers are allowed in says more about Logano's driving ability than backing into a championship he had no business winning does. Oh, come on. We all know he was one of the 16 best drivers last year. He had a better 2017 than Jimmie Johnson, Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., Austin Dillon & Kasey Kahne, all of whom made the playoffs. He also won a race, but it was taken away. He didn't have a fluke win like those guys so he lost out. I don't think he was quite top-10 last year, but he certainly was top 16. |
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Post by Mile501 on Nov 20, 2018 21:42:00 GMT -5
Actually missing the playoffs entirely while driving for one of the top teams and 16 drivers are allowed in says more about Logano's driving ability than backing into a championship he had no business winning does. Oh, come on. We all know he was one of the 16 best drivers last year. He had a better 2017 than Jimmie Johnson, Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., Austin Dillon & Kasey Kahne, all of whom made the playoffs. He also won a race, but it was taken away. He didn't have a fluke win like those guys so he lost out. I don't think he was quite top-10 last year, but he certainly was top 16. Indeed. Logano, along with Bowyer and Jones, were all in that situation in 2017. They were all top-15 teams, but because there were so many fluke winners who automatically made the playoffs, they missed out. Logano was tied for 8th in top-5 finishes last year, so that shows you he was near the front quite a bit. He also had an unusually high number of crash DNFs and other issues throughout the regular season that hurt his point total. |
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 20, 2018 23:56:43 GMT -5
Actually missing the playoffs entirely while driving for one of the top teams and 16 drivers are allowed in says more about Logano's driving ability than backing into a championship he had no business winning does. Oh, come on. We all know he was one of the 16 best drivers last year. He had a better 2017 than Jimmie Johnson, Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., Austin Dillon & Kasey Kahne, all of whom made the playoffs. He also won a race, but it was taken away. He didn't have a fluke win like those guys so he lost out. I don't think he was quite top-10 last year, but he certainly was top 16. I was fine with Joey winning for the fact that outside last year he has driven like a Final 4 driver. 2014, 15, 16. Those three years he would’ve made a deserving Champion. This is retribution for not getting one during that span. |
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Post by JSPorts on Nov 22, 2018 10:55:36 GMT -5
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Post by AndersonWhitt on Nov 22, 2018 13:40:54 GMT -5
Oh, come on. We all know he was one of the 16 best drivers last year. He had a better 2017 than Jimmie Johnson, Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., Austin Dillon & Kasey Kahne, all of whom made the playoffs. He also won a race, but it was taken away. He didn't have a fluke win like those guys so he lost out. I don't think he was quite top-10 last year, but he certainly was top 16. I was fine with Joey winning for the fact that outside last year he has driven like a Final 4 driver. 2014, 15, 16. Those three years he would’ve made a deserving Champion. This is retribution for not getting one during that span. Also, Kevin Harvick and Kyle Busch were the best by far this year, but Joey lost to them in 2014 and 2015, the years where he was arguably the best. So in terms of the number of championships, it evens out (Logano with 1-2, Harvick with 1-2 in this era, Busch with 1, plus maybe 2016), they just weren't in the right years. |
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 22, 2018 13:43:21 GMT -5
I was fine with Joey winning for the fact that outside last year he has driven like a Final 4 driver. 2014, 15, 16. Those three years he would’ve made a deserving Champion. This is retribution for not getting one during that span. Also, Kevin Harvick and Kyle Busch were the best by far this year, but Joey lost to them in 2014 and 2015, the years where he was arguably the best. So in terms of the number of championships, it evens out (Logano with 1-2, Harvick with 1-2 in this era, Busch with 1, plus maybe 2016), they just weren't in the right years. Yeah although I would much prefer Jeff Gordon in 2014. |
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Post by chevyfan98 on Nov 22, 2018 21:43:07 GMT -5
I don't think I've seen anyone bring this up and didn't realize it until I checked RR today while working on one of my stats projects, but Aric Almirola somehow managed to finish fifth in points this year.
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Post by Mile501 on Nov 23, 2018 6:09:46 GMT -5
He was very consistent throughout the playoff races, which are of course the only races that really matter. He barely beat Kurt Busch, Chase Elliott, and Brad Keselowski, who were probably stronger overall during the playoffs, but who had 1-3 bad finishes that set them back a bit.
Elliott, for example, had 7 finishes of 7th or better, including 2 wins, during the playoffs. But he also had 3 races where he encountered trouble and finished well back in the running order.
Almirola, meanwhile, finished 13th or better in all but 1 playoff race, and his worst finish was 19th on the roval. He completed every single lap during the playoff races. In fact, he was one of only three playoff drivers to not have a DNF sometime during the 10 playoff races (Truex and Johnson being the other two).
In full-season points, however, he ranked 12th, though he wasn't too far behind 9th.
Actually, it's interesting to look at full-season points, because there is a massive gap of about 250 points between 12th and 15th. The top 12 drivers of the year included all the SHR and Penske teams along with Kyle Busch, Truex, Larson, Elliott, and Hamlin. Jones and Johnson are hanging out in 13th and 14th kind of by themselves, then points are close again from 15th on back.
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Post by jimmie48fan on Jul 23, 2019 23:15:31 GMT -5
I don't care if this was 8 months ago, I'm done, just done. This is absolute bullshit. I don't get how the fuck this Penske dickbag is deserving of the title when there's 3 other drivers who completely dominated and raped everyone throughout the course of the season. You could MAYBE make the argument that this asswipe was the 4th best driver all season, but that may be a stretch. Congrats to Logano and the rest of the Team Penske cockwagons on this title, and I hope you whiney NASCAR Cuntbags got your wish in who your champion would be.
Fuck.
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