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Post by chevyfan98 on Nov 7, 2018 10:31:49 GMT -5
MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP IMPLICATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 7, 2018 11:24:22 GMT -5
First of Jimmie's goodbye to Lowe's paint schemes. He first ran it Homestead and then Atlanta in 2001. At Charlotte his first start it had red numbers.
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 7, 2018 12:45:17 GMT -5
#66 back on the entry list.
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Post by JSPorts on Nov 7, 2018 15:59:47 GMT -5
Maybe he can do something like crash on lap 305 and have an impact on who makes it to the final four at Homestead! Yet another reason this championship format is ridiculous: someone like Cody Ware can have an impact on who makes it. |
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Post by JSPorts on Nov 7, 2018 16:06:44 GMT -5
Good, almost up to 40 cars. Tanner Berryhill has 1 Cup attempt, at ISM in the spring of 2015. He has 40 Xfinity starts, with a best finish of 17th at Mid-Ohio in 2014. He was the guy who attempted the Roval in Xfinity for Obaika and crashed out before he could even complete a lap in qualifying.
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Post by JSPorts on Nov 7, 2018 17:11:43 GMT -5
I don't think the Harvick penalty changes my mind on the poll. I still think Elliott wins and Harvick passes Truex in points to make it in.
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Post by sean on Nov 7, 2018 20:49:37 GMT -5
In fairness, anyone other than Harvick or Kyle Busch would be a joke of a champion. Truex would be okay--but even his season is well behind those two. In full-season points, Truex, Logano, and Kurt Busch are all in a very close battle for 3rd. I didn't realize how quietly good of a season Kurt's been having until I looked that up. He's top five in virtually every metric, even the advanced ones. Not my advanced metrics. Here is the 2018 table for races led naturally and lead change records (I have updated this to remove Harvick's race led and three lead changes, since I do not count passes for cars that have significant points penalties, BUT I do count Ryan Blaney's pass of Harvick, because passing an illegal car is significantly impressive.) Driver - Races led naturally - Lead change record Sorted by races led, then by record Kevin Harvick - 19 - 41-15 Kyle Busch - 12 - 22-19 Martin Truex, Jr. - 11 - 20-17 Brad Keselowski - 11 - 17-24 Ryan Blaney - 8 - 13-10 Joey Logano - 8 - 14-18 Clint Bowyer - 7 - 12-8 Kyle Larson - 7 - 13-11 Chase Elliott - 7 - 8-8 Denny Hamlin - 7 - 12-13 Kurt Busch - 7 - 8-16 Aric Almirola - 4 - 6-1 Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. - 3 - 6-9 William Byron - 3 - 3-7 Ryan Newman - 2 - 2-3 Darrell Wallace, Jr. - 2 - 2-3 Erik Jones - 2 - 2-4 Jimmie Johnson - 1 - 2-3 Michael McDowell - 1 - 2-3 Kasey Kahne - 1 - 1-2 Paul Menard - 1 - 1-3 Alex Bowman - 1 - 1-5 Austin Dillon - 0 - 0-1 Ty Dillon - 0 - 0-1 Jamie McMurray - 0 - 0-1 Regan Smith - 0 - 0-1 Daniel Suarez - 0 - 0-2 Isn't it sort of bad that all three of Busch's teammates have a positive dueling record (with Harvick and Almirola having *staggering* dueling records) and Kurt is that far in the negative? Also, for all the fun people are making of Denny Hamlin's season, is it really *that* bad? While this will likely be the 6th consecutive season he finishes with a negative lead change record, which is not good, look how weak Jones and Suarez are, and when you consider that Hamlin has a car everybody is arguing is worse than Kurt Busch's, for them to have the same number of races led naturally and for Hamlin to have a *better record* does not seem that bad for him. Further, how different do these seasons look REALLY? I would probably argue Kurt's is the best but the differences between these three seasons do not look all THAT massive to me: Kurt Busch: 1-6-21 - 592 laps led - average finish 11.6 Aric Almirola: 1-3-15 - 181 laps led - average finish 13.1 Clint Bowyer: 2-9-15 - 490 laps led - average finish 13.3 I would say objectively these seasons are all way closer to each other than any of them is to Harvick. Yes, I'd go Busch > Bowyer > Almirola but I just do not think the jumps are that huge, particularly when you consider Almirola's 6-1(!) lead change record. Kurt is too conservative now and maybe there's actually a reason besides money they're choosing to drop him and not the other two. I don't think there's an obvious choice for fourth best season at all. I'd probably choose Elliott over Logano and Keselowski honestly considering the equipment difference... |
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Post by sean on Nov 7, 2018 20:59:08 GMT -5
Admittedly, to be fair to Kurt, had he not run out of gas at Talladega after the scheduled race distance had been completed, Busch's and Almirola's seasons would indeed look very different.
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Post by jimmie48fan on Nov 7, 2018 21:26:16 GMT -5
The torch has been passed, Kevin Harvick is the new "cucumbers", with 2 encumbered wins in 1 year. Something Logano is even jealous of.
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Post by chevyfan98 on Nov 7, 2018 21:32:50 GMT -5
The bhutan has been passed, Kevin Harvick is the new "cucumbers", with 2 encumbered wins in 1 year. Something Logano is even jealous of. Pretty hard to pass an entire country to someone else. But hey you learn something new every day! |
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 8, 2018 9:22:26 GMT -5
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 8, 2018 17:12:25 GMT -5
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Post by Canadianfan on Nov 9, 2018 10:20:47 GMT -5
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Post by JSPorts on Nov 9, 2018 13:12:58 GMT -5
Still illegal, though. You've got to follow the rules.
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Post by chevyfan98 on Nov 9, 2018 13:26:19 GMT -5
How about just get over it and try to win the right way this week? Sounds like sour grapes from the #4 bunch this week, Harvick apparently wouldn't talk to the media about it either.
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